Hallelujah.. I made my decision!
This post is dedicated to my schoolmates:
I WILL NOT JOIN MY SCHOOLMATES IN THE ABIFAHRT (ABI-TRIP)!!!
I WILL NOT GO TO THE ABIBALL!!!
AND I DO NOT WANT TO SEE ANYONE OF YOU PEOPLE AFTER GETTING MY CERTIFICATE!
Shame on you! Shame on you as people who claim to be well mannered! Shame on you as people who claim to be well raised! Shame on you as Muslims and Copts of Egypt!!!
I'm going to explain the reasons for this reaction later as I am too angry to write anything right now..
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Only about 3 months left, hang in there! They'll be over in no time. Just calm down, focus on finishing and what comes after that, and forget about the rest. You'll be glad you did =)
I don't think she's frustrated.
I won't comment on ur decision not to come, but as far as 'free speech' is concerned: you can't really say the "shame-on-you-sentence". I don't think anyone has the right to judge how religious/mannered people, because maybe you're the one who's exaggerating. Think it over if u want.
seriously...noone in da whole jahrgang can understand da big fuss ur doing ya nadia...u aint goin to drink...then wat do u care abt!u cant insist on telling ppl hw to act and wat to do...kol wa7ed 7orr!if u believe in ur self and have a strong character then u do wat u want and thats it!mesh madam kol wa7ed didnt do wat U think is right yeb2a howa 3'alat!
u knw i respect u and all and i agree with u alot..but this..la2 we have totally diff. opinions!
@ Nada: When someone cheats, do you have the right to call him a cheater? Yes. So, I do have the right to judge. And it's not my personal opinion which is based on private experiences. This statement is based on religion, upbringing, manner and respect!
And I don't see any of these things in the organization of the Abiball. I can't believe how you're ok with the fact that these people are choosing the hotel where they are guaranteed to drink as much as they want.
And which people? The psycho ones whose parents failed in raising them up properly.
@ Mori: I'm making a big fuss because you are not doing anything. You heard what Amira says: I can't live without drinking on that evening. And excuse me, do you think they will only take a sip and that's it??
They will get drunk, behave in a ***** way and guess what? I'm not willing to be sitting there watching it. The first and (last!) time when I saw Amira drunk moving like an animal.. That was a shock! And I needed two weeks to get over what I saw at the Moevenpick!
You are letting the dirty, nasty, pathetic and disgusting people decide where we will do OUR Abiball! And how can you be okay with the fact that people will drink??? And our families will be there. So there isn't any respect for anyone.
And again, this is not what I think is right.. Religion, upbringing, manner and respect underline it!
Anyway, I solved the problem by simply deciding that I won't come.
Now all I can do is to wish you a delightful, drunk, nasty evening with the heroes of the Abi 2007 who achieved in turning what's wrong into something normal!
Cheers!
@ The Sphinx: You're right! :)
Thanks a lot! =)
And @ Nada and Marwa: You think as long as you are not taking part of what is wrong it is totally fine.
Guess what? Such people are called ''Shayatin 7'ors'' (dumb devils) and if you are okay with being one then it is your choice but I am not convinced of giving up my principles and remaining silent just so the big ones, who are also the nasty, impolite, disrespectful ones, have their fun which means for me: If you join these people you're helping them to spread their ideas and ideals which are simply crap!
So, as I am not ready/willing to change anything any more because having people like you who know what's right but simply don't want to stand up to it.. Well, it's not worth a change as you like it that way!
So, stay cool and enjoy life by just watching!
Nadia, you remind me of the ones who are convinced that we shouldn't buy Israeli's stuff (or American)..don't mean to be rude, but it's true.
Erm.. It's a personal choice not to make trade with two countries. What's wrong with that? Why should one be forced to make business with them?
Just showing you a hole in that logic.
...im getting out of this conv...i am not accepting anyone to call me "shaytan a7'ras" for watever reason..
Nada just wants to show how radical people can be by even believing that even buying your "enemy's" is a sin.
Nadia, shame on you for what you are saying right now.
It's not about sins, or being radical, it's about personal choices, and I for one wouldn't let anybody take away my right to refuse to buy something from anyone.
Or would you deny yourself that right?
hey sphinx,
mayb my example is not logic.
Bs i mean first of all: religion is a personal (private) case, so anyone can fulfil his religious orders the way he thinks it's right. So, if Nadia doesn't want to come,it's her choice. What I dislike is that she exceeded her role (as a Muslim bardo) in advising us.
Second: I don't think attending the abiball could be described as 'shaytan a5ras',because the ppl who drink will drink anyways, in the abiball or somewhere else. So we're practically nor supporting nore is our opinion needed.
I have to go. Hope someone will be convinced sometime.
Nada, didn't you hear about "El 2amr bil ma3roof wal nahy 3an el monkar"? That's supposedly what every good muslim should do. And it's not like she's holding a gun to your heads, she's just standing up to what's right.
Say for example Israel is the only country who has water. Would you keep yourself from buying something that you actually need so much just because it's your enemy? I guess some radicals would do that. Nobody is telling you not to buy or to buy something from someone .. but the reason is important... why you actually are not buying. And not buying a needed product (or a product of better quality which fits with America or Israel) because you think about enmity, is definitely radical for me.
She's terrorizing, calling people devils, is this the right way Mr. wise guy?
I think we're getting out of context here, but anyway: Whatever reason I take not to buy something from someone is nobody's business. And even if it might seem to be an extreme measure, it needn't be radicalism. Plus, you don't need to throw everything strange into a box and label it "Caution, radical stuff inside."
Back to our issue now: If you really have a problem with somebody standing up to what's RIGHT, ETHICAL and CORRECT, then I advise you to think very hard about your morals. Because in the end, it's very, very hard to beat what's right. Merely trying to do that is a waste of time.
And for God's sake, please stop overusing the word "terrorism". I'm getting sick of it being stuffed down my throat all the time.
Showing that you are better than othr people by telling how bad the (not drinking) people are just because they are tolerating and respecting the freedom of others, is just unorthodox. Calling people devils, and not respecting their decisions is the last thing a respectable person like you should agree on.
Since when was living by religious principles called "unorthodox"? Did I miss out a re-definition of that word already?
I am free to use this word as I like :P Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism, Terroism. lol
You even misspelt Terrorism. Funny, isn't it..
You are just running away from the fact how she treated people! Do you really think this is a right way a person (no matter which religious views he/she has) should advise people, just as Nada said? I am not offended, but I think it's completely UNETHICAL, WRONG, INCORRECT, and NON-RELIGIOUS how she is treating people who do not share her same opinion, apart from the damn fact that they don't drink.
Yeah was testing you spelling and reading skills ... You passed. Congrats.
I'm not running away from anything. And yes, I support standing up to what's right. Religious principles are there for a reason, and not to get on people's nerves, but to guide people to the right path. So advising people to follow them is everything but wrong. And the fact that Nadia knows twice as much as religion as you should be in her favour anyway.
If you end up that evening with one of you overdosing on alcohol and landing in the hospital, I really hope you feel great about yourself for supporting that person's right to drink.
Anyway I have better stuff to do then say the same stuff all over again. I'm off to study physics.
P.S: Yaaay, I passed. Thanks for the test. Always love a good test to keep me going..
You still don't get it. A shame.
OK, I wasn't expecting the discussion to develop like that.
To sum it up:
@ Gassia: You're repeating the word ''treat''. I can't remember myself treating anyone in a bad way. All I did is describing their attitude and like it or not: It's called ''shaytan a7'ras'' in Islam when you see something wrong happening and you don't stand up to what's right (''Al saket 3an el 7aq, shaytanon a7'ras''). You didn't know that. Now you do. So, don't take it as an insult. It's a fact. Shown from a point of view which you haven't taken into consideration yet.
@ Mori: I really did not mean to insult you. I was talking in general.
I simply cannot watch and see wrong things happening around me and just act as if everything is great. I admit: That's my weakness.
@ Nada: I'm not giving ANYONE any kind of advice. All I am (was) asking for is to spend this last evening under ''clean'' circumstances. As this will ruin your perfect evening I decided to let YOU enjoy it.
By not going you'd show that you're against it. By going you're saying that nothing's wrong (although we all know it is).
@ The Sphinx: Thanks a million! =)
@ Anyone else who wants to add his comment: Enough! We can discuss the topic ''Stand up to what's right.. but only to a certain extent'' later. Thanks! :)
The End.
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